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#1 Thrash

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Posted 13 July 2013 - 08:52 PM

There's the justice that everyone wanted.





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Posted 13 July 2013 - 09:10 PM

Will no one comment?

Well, how to not blow up the power keg. I'll say either way it's bullshit, the whole thing is, the situation, and I don't know details, and don't think I'll bother learning them. Disgusting on so many levels, for so many reasons.

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Posted 13 July 2013 - 09:16 PM

Unfortunately, given the lack of evidence, it's really the only verdict they could reach.  It's too bad, because I think there's very little doubt that George Zimmerman was exactly what the prosecution portrayed him as: a wannabe cop who put himself in a situation in which he had no business being.  But that's not a crime.  I wonder what he'll do now?  He'll probably have to move.



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Posted 13 July 2013 - 09:19 PM

Unfortunately, given the lack of evidence, it's really the only verdict they could reach.  It's too bad, because I think there's very little doubt that George Zimmerman was exactly what the prosecution portrayed him as: a wannabe cop who put himself in a situation in which he had no business being.  But that's not a crime.  I wonder what he'll do now?  He'll probably have to move.

 

Jorost???? I'm SHOCKED. Not to mention the jury and the attorneys having to move.



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Posted 13 July 2013 - 09:44 PM

They pulled an OJ.

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Posted 13 July 2013 - 09:47 PM

I don't see how this is such a big deal. It's... Like.... Not even important.

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Posted 13 July 2013 - 10:30 PM

They pulled an OJ.

 

You saw my post on FB, this is nothing like OJ.



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Posted 13 July 2013 - 10:53 PM

This guy, more or less, deserved manslaughter; the prosecution did it all wrong, trying to acuse him of being racist, when he wasn't, or trying to make it into a race thing, which is disgusting, or going after murder charges, when it should have been manslaughter.

 

An unarmed 17 year old kid was killed by a 25 year old stalker with a gun; that's all that matters. Guy is too dangerous to allow into society and deserves to be locked away.



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Posted 13 July 2013 - 10:58 PM

This guy, more or less, deserved manslaughter; the prosecution did it all wrong, trying to acuse him of being racist, when he wasn't, or trying to make it into a race thing, which is disgusting, or going after murder charges, when it should have been manslaughter.

 

An unarmed 17 year old kid was killed by a 25 year old stalker with a gun; that's all that matters. Guy is too dangerous to allow into society and deserves to be locked away.

 

To your first statement: you forgot about "child abuse"

 

To your second, we'll agree to disagree.



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Posted 13 July 2013 - 11:15 PM

I honestly think, from what I've heard, that the guy reacted in the way you'd expect a guy wielding a gun to react. So I don't see how this could be considered anything more than self defence. If you want to charge him with anything more, you're going to have to question your entire gun legality... thing.



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Posted 13 July 2013 - 11:20 PM

I honestly think, from what I've heard, that the guy reacted in the way you'd expect a guy wielding a gun to react. So I don't see how this could be considered anything more than self defence. If you want to charge him with anything more, you're going to have to question your entire gun legality... thing.

 

Amen.

 

The problem is people get killed every day with illegal guns and nothing happens. This guy owned a legal gun and they make a charade out of it.



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Posted 13 July 2013 - 11:23 PM

The guy deserves first-degree murder. He shot a teenager dead for no reason other than that the kid was black.



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Posted 13 July 2013 - 11:37 PM

The guy deserves first-degree murder. He shot a teenager dead for no reason other than that the kid was black.

 

That's not really accurate at all.

 

In fact there's no evidence of Zimmerman being racist or the act being about race at all.

 

 

It's more or less an instance of a wanna be cop using his gun for a matter that didn't necessitate it.



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Posted 13 July 2013 - 11:38 PM

I honestly think, from what I've heard, that the guy reacted in the way you'd expect a guy wielding a gun to react. So I don't see how this could be considered anything more than self defence. If you want to charge him with anything more, you're going to have to question your entire gun legality... thing.

 

The difference is when you use a gun to stop a person trying to kill you or somebody else, and flat out murdering a person for no reason.

 

Self defense =/= murder.


Edited by Manoka, 13 July 2013 - 11:39 PM.


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Posted 13 July 2013 - 11:45 PM

As I understood it, the kid attacked first.



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Posted 13 July 2013 - 11:53 PM

As I understood it, the kid attacked first.

 

There's really no evidence of that. Even if he did, he didn't attack in a manner that warranted the use of lethal force. If you're a neighborhood watch guy who's going to pursue a suspect, you should at the very least carry pepper spray or a tazer gun, have a baton, wear body armor, know karate, have some means of non-lethal self defense, instead of just attacking a kid with a gun.

 

If a guy was stalking me, following me all day, and then jumped out and demanded I did something, possibly had a gun, and I knocked him over and tried to run away, that would still be the stalker for initiating the contact and everything. It is ridiculous to use lethal force to a situation that does not permit or necessitate it.

 

Furthermore, it is ridiculous to actively take part in a role where you expect to be following and then engaging suspects up close (after which you should clearly determine if they currently possess a firearm in their hand), who might attack you, and not have an alternative means of defense; if you're going to carry a gun in that circumstance, you better carry means of defense up to a gun.


Edited by Manoka, 13 July 2013 - 11:57 PM.


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Posted 14 July 2013 - 12:18 AM

News flash: Guns are legal in your country.

 

So, what you don't expect people to use them?



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Posted 14 July 2013 - 03:59 AM

Been watching that case intently over the past few days. I honestly, am just that sick kinda fuck that wanted Zimmerman to go free, just to see some butthurt. lol

 

However, I think that mans life is in more danger than it ever has been...if you live in the south, or have been for a while, you know what I mean. The so called "Black leaders" here have been urging people not to resort to violence...however, knowing how people down here in the south are, they're gonna resort to violence whether it be now or next week or next month. Someone, is planning to hurt Zimmerman, or lash out against the Hispanic community.



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Posted 14 July 2013 - 06:36 AM

 or lash out against the Hispanic community.

 

You mean the white community.



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Posted 14 July 2013 - 07:04 AM

As I understood it, the kid attacked first.

That's what the defence claimed. Forensic evidence showed that they were lying.

 

George Zimmerman saw a black kid wearing a hoodie and shot him.



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