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Posted 03 November 2015 - 06:55 PM

Today is Election Day 2015. One year from now Americans will elect the next President of the United States. One year. But don't worry, it will seem like ten.

 

As I am wont to do, I shall now prognosticate upon the likely events of the coming year...

 

Democrats

 

Hillary Clinton will win the Democratic nomination, as most people assume, but it will be a tougher fight than anyone expected. Bernie Sanders will start — indeed, has already started — a revolution in American politics: the acceptableness of socialism. I do not believe he will win the Democratic nomination, but he will fight hard, and go into the convention with a sizable portion of delegates, second only to the Hilldog herself. Bernie will not be president, and perhaps that's for the best — revolutionaries rarely make good heads of state. Bernie may not be king, but he will play kingmaker. He will wield enormous power over the platform and the direction of the party. Look for Hillary's VP pick to be someone from the progressive caucus, perhaps Martin O'Malley or (and here's an intriguing thought) Elizabeth Warren. And look for Hillary Clinton to adopt more and more truly left-wing positions. Indeed, she is already doing so.

 

Republicans

 

I think Jeb Bush is done. It would be a miracle if he pulled off the Republican nomination now. Hell, their party is in such disarray that serious people are calling for Mitt Romney to be called in. That's right: there's a "Draft Romney" movement. That's how bad things have gotten in the Republican party.

That said, the pendulum always swings back the other way. The GOP is down right now, but that does not mean they might not be up again in the future. If that is to happen, I think their best chance lies with Marco Rubio. He has weaknesses, many of which have not been fully vetted (not least of which his tendency to crumble under pressure — anyone remember the State of the Union rebuttal fiasco?), but at root he is a very attractive candidate, young, smart, and Latino; very much a "Republican Obama," as many in the media are already calling him.

From the point of view of someone like myself, who would prefer to see a Democrat elected (out of the two major party candidates; who I'd really prefer to see elected is a topic for another thread), Marco Rubio is the most dangerous candidate in the Republican stable. He could beat Hillary Clinton.

I don't believe any of the others could do so, and I think the Republican Establishment is beginning to see that. There is a lot of talk about urging Bush out of the race. The Trump-Carson thing is expected to fizzle out, and on that point I tend to agree with the conventional wisdom. For a while it will be the Candidate of the Month in the GOP nominating race, similar to 2012, except this time I think it's Rubio who will emerge the likely victor, possibly with Kasich as his running mate. A smart and ambitious young minority candidate with an old school, tell-it-like-it-is white guy as his grandad running mate? That should sound awfully familiar to a lot of Americans. Certainly this is the GOP's best shot at winning back the White House. Any of those other guys would be a disaster.

 

General Election

 

Hillary Clinton vs. Marco Rubio? Already they are statistically tied in the polls, 47% to 44% (margin of error ±3.4 percentage points). It would be tough, and close. But in the end I think I'd have to give it to Rubio.

Here's hoping I'm wrong!





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Posted 03 November 2015 - 07:25 PM

Honestly I don't Ben Carson all that much or Jeb Bush, but Jeb's personal family history will make it a lot harder to get elected, and he's another meh candidate. Better than Romney though, and more likable. 

 

Bernie Sanders is alright ,but again, there's just too much of his policies I don't like. The problem with socialism is that, these days, people use it with such a broad meaning that it can mean almost anything. For him, it means a lot of weird things. He also buys a little too much in to conspiracies. Comes off as an angry old man to me, lacks a lot of Charisma, but looks alright on paper. 

 

 

Hillary is probs best candidate. But a lot of people don't like here. Might swing to Bernies. 

 

Then again, and unknown 3rd candidate might jump up there and steal the show, and I think we're all looking for that so it could work.



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Posted 03 November 2015 - 10:55 PM

Sanders handed Hillary the nom in the debate by not going after her e-mails. Shame, I was looking forward to our acceleration into a third would country. He was the only one running on either side who actually would have made change, even though that change would have been the death of the country. Might as well get it over with instead of kicking the can with all the people who promise to be different but are really just the same, no matter what party.

 

Won't be voting. Didn't vote today for the first time in my life. I'm done.



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Posted 04 November 2015 - 04:10 AM

It feels like the run up to candidate choice has been 10 years already, why does the states have that as a long and drawn out process.

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Posted 04 November 2015 - 12:40 PM

He was the only one running on either side who actually would have made change, even though that change would have been the death of the country.

 

I'd like to see your sources, sir.

 

inb4 "Chris Christie said 'he wants to raise your taxes to 90%'"

 

Pretty sure The New Deal didn't kill America either.



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Posted 04 November 2015 - 03:07 PM

Ewww, marco rubio D:



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Posted 04 November 2015 - 04:14 PM

Ewww, marco rubio D:

 

He's palatable, I'll give him that.

I could think of worse people getting the GOP nod.



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Posted 04 November 2015 - 10:18 PM

The fact that even you consider him palatable, KB, just makes me think I'm right. Hillary Clinton is eminently beatable. The guy in the White House now is proof of that.

 

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Posted 05 November 2015 - 01:11 AM

Ewww, marco rubio D:

 

He's palatable, I'll give him that.

I could think of worse people getting the GOP nod.

 

But he's shiiiiiiiit



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Posted 05 November 2015 - 10:16 AM

What scares you about Cuban-Swing-State-Man-Who-Shares-Some-of-Our-Whitepeople-Values-GoRubio!2016!!x! so much?

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Posted 07 November 2015 - 07:14 PM

something something conservative dickwaffle.



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Posted 08 November 2015 - 02:09 PM

Rubio is far from perfect, but he's the best they've got. He's young, good-looking, relatively new, ambitious, smart, and Latino. He is also a skilled politician and, when he's on, a good speaker and debater. Those are his strengths. His weaknesses are some sketchy details about his personal finances and a tendency to crumble under pressure. If he gets tripped up he could make a misstep, perhaps a fatal one.

 

But I don't think he'll do that. And I think the references to him as a kind of Republican Obama ring true. Bottom line: I think a lot of people will find him more likable than Hillary Clinton, and at the end of the day, Americans almost always vote for the candidate they like better, not necessarily the one they think is smartest or best qualified. Americans also like the vague idea of "change," and Rubio would better represent change than handing the presidency back to the Clintons.

 

I dunno. I'm not saying Hillary Clinton couldn't beat Rubio, because she absolutely could. But when I look at it on paper (or, in this case, onscreen), I see Marco Rubio with a lot of advantages in a race against her.

 

This is why the way we choose leaders is stupid.



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Posted 08 November 2015 - 06:28 PM

Should just choose REDEZRA FOR SUPREME LEADER OF MANKIND so I can win the Diplomatic Victory already!



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Posted 08 November 2015 - 09:02 PM

The machines will be running things for us soon enough. And the best part is we won't even know it.



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Posted 08 November 2015 - 10:45 PM

What part of Di-plo-ma-tic victory don't you understand?

 

I sure as hell don't want to try for Economic. That never works.



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Posted 08 November 2015 - 11:04 PM

Rubio is far from perfect, but he's the best they've got. He's young, good-looking, relatively new, ambitious, smart, and Latino. He is also a skilled politician and, when he's on, a good speaker and debater. Those are his strengths. His weaknesses are some sketchy details about his personal finances and a tendency to crumble under pressure. If he gets tripped up he could make a misstep, perhaps a fatal one.
 
But I don't think he'll do that. And I think the references to him as a kind of Republican Obama ring true. Bottom line: I think a lot of people will find him more likable than Hillary Clinton, and at the end of the day, Americans almost always vote for the candidate they like better, not necessarily the one they think is smartest or best qualified. Americans also like the vague idea of "change," and Rubio would better represent change than handing the presidency back to the Clintons.
 
I dunno. I'm not saying Hillary Clinton couldn't beat Rubio, because she absolutely could. But when I look at it on paper (or, in this case, onscreen), I see Marco Rubio with a lot of advantages in a race against her.
 
This is why the way we choose leaders is stupid.


I got that. But why do you fear him? I was asking your personal opinion, since there seems to be a reason I am not aware of from outside knowledge/recalling a previous post of yours.

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Posted 10 November 2015 - 10:03 PM

"The way we choose leaders is stupid because a treasonous shill isn't as likely to win as I want."



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Posted 10 November 2015 - 11:30 PM

Hey, Treasonous Shill >> Stupid Backwards Hicks.



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Posted 11 November 2015 - 07:06 PM

Should just choose REDEZRA FOR SUPREME LEADER OF MANKIND so I can win the Diplomatic Victory already!

Silly Red, you can't win the Diplomatic Victory until you get to Alpha Centauri. B-)



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Posted 11 November 2015 - 08:23 PM

I'm thinking about possibly voting again... Ted Cruz is looking kinda good.

 

lol last night @ Rubio..  we wanna give you more money for having more kids.. isn't that one of the biggest problems we already have?



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