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Posted 17 July 2016 - 06:24 PM

Dont come crying to us when Trump blows up the budget. If you think Obama was bad... how exactly are we paying for this wall? What about the cost to deport them? Or breaking the 4th Amendment to deport "Undesirables" like Muslims

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Posted 19 July 2016 - 03:37 AM



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Posted 19 July 2016 - 05:41 AM

Dont come crying to us when Trump blows up the budget. If you think Obama was bad... how exactly are we paying for this wall? What about the cost to deport them? Or breaking the 4th Amendment to deport "Undesirables" like Muslims

 

Have you not payed attention? Mexico is paying for the wall.



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Posted 19 July 2016 - 07:17 AM


Dont come crying to us when Trump blows up the budget. If you think Obama was bad... how exactly are we paying for this wall? What about the cost to deport them? Or breaking the 4th Amendment to deport "Undesirables" like Muslims


Have you not payed attention? Mexico is paying for the wall.
Devils Advocate: Says who? Trump?
Two former and the current President of Mexico have said no way.
How to you make them pay without imposing crushing tarrifs?

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Posted 19 July 2016 - 07:46 AM

Go shitpost in someone else's shitpost.



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Posted 19 July 2016 - 07:51 AM

It wont be paid for in the traditional sense (i.e. Mexico cuts a check to Bob's Fences.) It will be paid for with ROI (Return On Investment). We will have to front tax money to make it happen, but in a short time it will pay itself off. This requires strict adherence to the plan and sticking with it which only Trump can provide since he can't be bought. Everyone seems to forget that these illegals leech the system dry. We're currently doling out billions to school, feed, house, protect these people who do not want to contribute to our society in the least. Instead of cutting them a check for food that month, you give that money to law enforcement to get them the fuck out of here. That's a wash for that day. The next month, they are gone, no check needs to be cut to support them, nor to deport them. Win. 

 

With this done, the tax coffers keep growing (without raising rates). Now, you have a surplus. Take that surplus, build a fence so the problem doesn't present itself again. Everyone is happy. No one had to pay more. Legal citizens have a better quality of life. After a few years of the fence, you can stop budgeting to pay for illegals. Tax cut. Everyone is ecstatic.

 

End Result: Mexico and all the other countries who have illegals coming here have paid for the wall.



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Posted 19 July 2016 - 05:24 PM

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Posted 19 July 2016 - 08:42 PM

It wont be paid for in the traditional sense (i.e. Mexico cuts a check to Bob's Fences.) It will be paid for with ROI (Return On Investment). We will have to front tax money to make it happen, but in a short time it will pay itself off. This requires strict adherence to the plan and sticking with it which only Trump can provide since he can't be bought. Everyone seems to forget that these illegals leech the system dry. We're currently doling out billions to school, feed, house, protect these people who do not want to contribute to our society in the least. Instead of cutting them a check for food that month, you give that money to law enforcement to get them the fuck out of here. That's a wash for that day. The next month, they are gone, no check needs to be cut to support them, nor to deport them. Win. 

 

With this done, the tax coffers keep growing (without raising rates). Now, you have a surplus. Take that surplus, build a fence so the problem doesn't present itself again. Everyone is happy. No one had to pay more. Legal citizens have a better quality of life. After a few years of the fence, you can stop budgeting to pay for illegals. Tax cut. Everyone is ecstatic.

 

End Result: Mexico and all the other countries who have illegals coming here have paid for the wall.

 

Congrats! you have fallen for the biggest bag of goods in political history. Mexico is building no such wall. Why would they? To placate us? To keep cartel violence in? Why would Mexico agree to foot the bill for a project they have no interest in and millions of dollars they cannot afford? Bill of goods man. Bill of goods. 

 

On top of that, Trump's delusional plan calls for all illegals to be rounded up and sent home (i.e tax dollars). Putting aside the increase in quanity and volume of the over militarization of police force (not to mention deputizing untrained individuals to carry out this task... WHAT COULD GO WRONG). I am pretty sure that every American citizen, especially those of Hispanic decent, will be thrilled and excited to lay down their 4th amendment right while this police force comes into their home for inspections and removes any unwanted citizens. We talk about rights here in this country only when they benefit us. 

 

Thirdly, even if you can get legislation passed (not likely) by Congress (good luck trying to get this pushed by Executive Order and not get an Impeachment vote thrown at you) you also fail to see what this will do to the economy. You talk about how illegals are a drain on society yet you probably have no contact with any. I do. I have worked with illegals in a previous job. They all had families who were legal citizens (spouses/children). You would be incredibly surprised how many actually pay taxes (every one I worked with because my boss, the owner, kept tabs) and got NOTHING out of it. No health care. No tax breaks. No social security benefits for themselves. This does not include what a lot of illegals who have no "anchor chilrden/wives" endure or put up with having the absolute shittiest jobs in the world. Ever have a job picking fruit? How about being a house servant? Gardener? Any of those sound appealing? How about the fact that if you got beaten out by an illegal it means you work unskilled labor. Congrats your job is insignificant and completely replaceable by an illegal. SHould I feel sympathy for you? 

 

Also see the following: e258362ca74f2b324857ab3188006975.jpg so to become of this country. One must apply for a visa, have it granted (easier said than done) show good residency, and/or worked a skilled profession and then just maybe you will be granted citizenship... after 13 years on average. Don't fail one of those above steps or lose your visa for ANY reason whatsoever or start over. Seems like an awful lot to jump through to be here legally. Or we could just grant citizenship for anyone serving in the armed forces for 4 years like the Romans did or any other fucking logical path. 

 

Also I forgot to add, even if you magically passed this through Congress and it was not shut down by any court, How do you expect to pay for it? Tax increase is a no-no. A vast majority of the GOP/Conservatives are still fellating Grover Nordquist and his pact. Want to get reelected? Don't pass taxes. Want to commit political suicide in the GOP? Raise taxes


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Posted 20 July 2016 - 04:05 AM



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Posted 21 July 2016 - 04:18 PM

RNC getting really freaky :D

 

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Posted 21 July 2016 - 04:20 PM



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Posted 21 July 2016 - 06:33 PM

Is... is this real life?

 

Is this arggorogoglaflgslgal *begins foaming at mouth*



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Posted 23 July 2016 - 02:57 AM

Is... is this real life?

 

Is this arggorogoglaflgslgal *begins foaming at mouth*

It's Nippon life.



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Posted 23 July 2016 - 09:18 AM

 
Regarding Trump
 
"The digital internet team is continuing the push to show people how dangerous Trump is." https://wikileaks.or...s/emailid/10744
They discussed making a Craigslist posts on fake Trump jobs talking about women needing to be hot for the job and "maintain hotness" https://wikileaks.or...s/emailid/12803
 
Regarding Bernie
Want to know why Morning Joe suddenly did a 180? DWS to Chuck Todd. Topic is about them calling for DWS to step down. "This must stop." https://wikileaks.or...s/emailid/10945
"Hey Josh, since the Sanders camp keeps pushing stories about the money laundering, we’re prepping a Medium post from either our CFO or our CEO we want to run by you. It will sharply state that the criticisms are wrong, etc.. basically our talking points in a Medium post format with some extra detail." https://wikileaks.or...ls/emailid/4091
"Making a Bernie narrative" https://wikileaks.or...s/emailid/11056
On debating Bernie in California https://wikileaks.or...s/emailid/12440 thanks to /u/biasexposer
"If she outperforms this polling, the Bernie camp will go nuts and allege misconduct. They'll probably complain regardless, actually." https://wikileaks.or...s/emailid/13098
"missed this... Sanders complaining about underfunded state parties, LOL". Thanks /u/mportz https://wikileaks.or...ls/emailid/6530
DWS private email saying Bernie's idea to change DNC is silly and won't be president https://wikileaks.or...ls/emailid/9999
DNC and Hillary moles inside the Bernie campaign https://wikileaks.or...ls/emailid/4776
Trying to get someone to ask about religion at one of Bernie's events. Trying to get him to say he's Atheist https://wikileaks.or...s/emailid/11508
DNC flagging Bernie Democrats or things that threaten HRC. Thanks /u/Yo5yoman2 https://wikileaks.or...ls/emailid/6191
DWS on Bernie staying in the race in April: "Spoken like someone who has never been a member of the Democratic Party and has no understanding of what to do" https://wikileaks.or...ls/emailid/5477)
Calling someone a Bernie Bro for wanting to interview DWS about money laundering, which they call "a shit topic". Asks for an interview next week on another topic. https://wikileaks.or...s/emailid/13319
 
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"I think the best reporter to give the news to ahead of time is Greg Sargent at the Washington Post. But, the specific reporter is not as important as getting it to an outlet before the news breaks so we can help control the narrative on the front" https://wikileaks.or...s/emailid/11242
This one indicates a CNN political correspondent and PR strategist getting talking points into an article written by Steve Benen of MSNBC https://wikileaks.or...s/emailid/11712 thanks to /u/Johnboy1985
More media collusion (Politico) "Vogel gave me his story ahead of time/before it goes to his editors as long as I didn't share it. Let me know if you see anything that's missing and I'll push back." Thanks to /u/PM_ME_OR_PM_ME
Democrat Chair DWS called Pres of MSNBC Phil Griffin to stop @Morning_Joe being so sympathetic to Sanders https://wikileaks.or...s/emailid/13718 thanks to /u/basedOp
Jake Tapper responds to collaboration: https://sli.mg/rOlZ6y Thanks /u/tsdouglas
Planting stories in the Washington Post https://wikileaks.or...ls/emailid/8157
DNC wanting to promote pro-Hillary news during primary, discussion of "quietly sharing". (Thanks /u/PM_ME_OR_PM_ME ) https://wikileaks.or...ls/emailid/8744
 
GENERAL
 
"I hate these people so much" - DNC Chief of Finance. Thanks /u/mportz https://wikileaks.or...s/emailid/18430
Asking to commit FEC violation https://wikileaks.or...ails/emailid/25
MONEY LAUNDERING. From Weaver. https://wikileaks.or...ls/emailid/6230 More on laundering https://wikileaks.or...ls/emailid/6697
 
DNC calling O'Malley a joke. Thanks /u/mportz https://wikileaks.or...s/emailid/13711
"-- Last night, Hillary attended two high-dollar fundraisers in New York City. The first, from 6:15 p.m. to 7:45 p.m., was at the home of Maureen White and Steven Rattner. Approximately 15 attendees contributed $100,000+ to attend. Then, from 8:15 p.m. to 9:45 p.m., she went to the home of Lynn Forester de Rothschild. Another 15 people ponied up more than 100K to attend." https://wikileaks.or...ls/emailid/1238
 
Money from DNC donation funneled to Clinton campaign https://wikileaks.or...ls/emailid/6697
 
Correct the Record's executive director https://wikileaks.or...ls/emailid/4690
 
"less than 1 percent of the $61 million raised by that effort has stayed in the state parties' coffers, according to a POLITICO analysis of the latest Federal Election Commission filing" https://wikileaks.or...ls/emailid/1724
 
To meet Clinton at the convention is $1.7 million to $300k https://wikileaks.or...leid/22280/9807
 
Asking Burger King to form a PAC https://wikileaks.or...ils/emailid/999
 
Targeting Wall Street donors. Thanks /u/Cygnus_X https://wikileaks.or...ils/emailid/998 More info: "One big Clinton donor on Wall Street said that Bush donors are prime targets and that 'we're a big tent.' Potential sources of support for Clinton could include people like Jack Oliver, who also served as a top fundraiser for Jeb Bush. Both Johnson and Oliver did not respond to requests for comment.The race for Wall Street cash will be intense."- /u/Cygnus_X
 
Trading favors with superdelegates. (Thanks /u/PM_ME_OR_PM_ME ) https://wikileaks.or...ils/emailid/234
 
DNC members "If he's a good gay, he'll love that this pic is with Kathy griffin." Thanks /u/mportz https://wikileaks.or...ls/emailid/1042


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Posted 07 August 2016 - 06:02 PM



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Posted 07 August 2016 - 08:32 PM

Dude, that's politics. They don't believe either one of those, they just want you to believe it.



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Posted 08 August 2016 - 03:07 AM

Dude, that's politics. They don't believe either one of those, they just want you to believe it.

The title.

The entire point of this topic.

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Posted 09 August 2016 - 02:32 PM



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Posted 09 August 2016 - 11:04 PM

Dude, that's politics. They don't believe either one of those, they just want you to believe it.

The title.

The entire point of this topic.

Hooray, do I win the thread?



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