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Posted 03 July 2013 - 12:16 PM

This is my family's standard from the late Medieval period:
 
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As you can see, it appears to feature a dancing duck being pelted with pretzels, which makes me wonder just exactly what was going on in the Stafford household at that time.  It also contains the motto "Humble and Loyal," which is amusing considering that two of the men who flew it, Henry Stafford and his son Edward, were each executed (in two separate incidents) for treason.

 

I come from a long line of assholes.  :)

 

The flag of Buckinghamshire is based upon it.  Which means someone in Aylesbury is going to hear from my lawyer.

 

(Aylesbury is the capital of Buckinghamshire.)

 

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 12:22 PM

Humble, but loyal only to justice and morality n stuff.



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 12:24 PM

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 12:54 PM

Yorkist, I see.  Just like the Staffords.  Well, that is until Richard III was betrayed by Henry, who, incidentally, was almost certainly involved with the murder of the Princes in the Tower as well.  Like I said: a long line of assholes.

 

Coats of arms are different from standards.  They tend to change from generation to generation.  In Edward Stafford's day ours looked like this:

 

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Now, Edward was an ambitious duke with a healthy dose of Plantagenet DNA, so he may have had his own designs on the throne.  Certainly the producers of Showtime's The Tudors thought so.  The scheming Duke of Buckingham portrayed in the first few episodes of the series is based on old great-great-great-great-etc.-grandpa Eddie.  This crest would seem to bear them out, since it incorporates the royal arms.



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 12:57 PM

Also, why are the words "pretzels" and "lawyer" hyperlinked in my original post?  I didn't do that.



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 02:27 PM

Also, why are the words "pretzels" and "lawyer" hyperlinked in my original post?  I didn't do that.

 

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 02:35 PM

Also, why are the words "pretzels" and "lawyer" hyperlinked in my original post?  I didn't do that.

 

They're not for me. Do you have some add on installed that's trying to advertise?



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 02:46 PM

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Holy hell that's big.

Anywho, that's mine,

As an atheist I find our motto, funny.



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 03:31 PM

Oh that's interesting.  They were hyperlinked to some sort of advertising on the network at my summer job, but not on my home network.



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 06:19 PM

My family has no crest cause its too new to have one.

 

So there. I'm the unknown factor that everyone knows about.



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Posted 03 July 2013 - 11:27 PM

I really have no idea at all about my family. But it's still cool to trace it all back.

 

How'd you learn about this? Anything to do with the recent Stafford project?



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Posted 04 July 2013 - 11:14 AM

I'm mostly Native American.



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Posted 04 July 2013 - 11:58 AM

I really have no idea at all about my family. But it's still cool to trace it all back.

 

How'd you learn about this? Anything to do with the recent Stafford project?

 

I have a cousin who spent years researching our family history.  It's been traced back to 1066 and the arrival of the progenitor of our line, one Robert de Tosney (or de Toeni), who came to England with William the Conqueror and for his service was awarded the lands and castle of Stafford, from which our name derives.



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