Also, I take exception with the suggestion that George Zimmerman is an evil man. I don't think that's accurate. I think he was a wannabe cop — a lot of us know the type. They say he was a member of the "neighborhood watch" but the truth was he was a neighborhood watch of one. He wanted to be a big man, and he thought Trayvon Martin looked "suspicious," and so he called it in and then confronted the youth. I would not be surprised if Trayvon did throw the first punch, but I'll lay odds that George Zimmerman laid hands on first. Maybe a hand on the shoulder or poke to the chest. Cop moves, or rather, wannabe cop moves. The kind of thing you see in movies and on TV. A real cop never lays hands on unless he means to do something, but, as I've said, George Zimmerman was not a real cop. So yeah, Trayvon throws a punch, and before you know it Zimmerman is on his ass, because he's an out of shape fuck while Trayvon Martin is an athletic 17-year-old. Panicked and possibly in legitimate fear for his life, Zimmerman fires, and Trayvon Martin is killed. Dollars to donuts that's what happened, more or less exactly as described. My argument is that Zimmerman should never have confronted Trayvon in the first place, and as he was specifically instructed not to do by the police dispatcher. That's why I think it's manslaughter, as I said in the other thread.