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[Manoka]

Israel Hate

 

So, why do you all hate Israel?

 

Since this is the politics area, I feel this is the appropriate place for that. 

 

 

Be warned, I will be reading your stuff then responding to it, so if you don't like that, then don't post. O_O

 

I also will ask you for sources to verify claims, so if you don't like that, prepare yourself, as well. 

Edited by Manoka, 28 October 2014 - 09:23 PM.

[Thrash]

lol

 

lol

 

just happened to see in the sidebar on the right a new topic (this) called "israel hate" i was like OHHH

 

my wife was like im not gonna be able to go to sleep now

[Thrash]

ok, so I guess I'll begin..

 

They are approx. 1% of the USA population yet control just about everything and have the majority of the $ also. You tell me how when none of them lived here say before WWII, and hardly any live here now how they are able to have so much influence over everything single thing in the Government/Media/Banks. This doesn't make any sense.

 

I'll let you reply to that one first.

[Manoka]

ok, so I guess I'll begin..

 

They are approx. 1% of the USA population yet control just about everything and have the majority of the $ also. You tell me how when none of them lived here say before WWII, and hardly any live here now how they are able to have so much influence over everything single thing in the Government/Media/Banks. This doesn't make any sense.

 

I'll let you reply to that one first.

Well, it's doubtful they have true control over the world or most of the media. I doubt any single organization does, even the U.S.

 

What has lead you to believe this?

Edited by Manoka, 28 October 2014 - 09:24 PM.

[Justavictim82]

I have no hate for Judaism but I do for Zionism. I cannot support a government whose main purpose is to systematically oppress Palestine and steal their land and resources. For centuries, Jews were able to live (for the most part) peacefully with Christians and Muslims in Europe and the Middle East. Now they simply cannot share with a people who have held that land for a millennium. We are supposed to feel sorry for Israel because they suffered through the Holocaust yet a) A vast majority of Israeli citizens were born after 1945 and b) They are radicalizing and growing in extremism.    

[Manoka]

I have no hate for Judaism but I do for Zionism. I cannot support a government whose main purpose is to systematically oppress Palestine and steal their land and resources. For centuries, Jews were able to live (for the most part) peacefully with Christians and Muslims in Europe and the Middle East. Now they simply cannot share with a people who have held that land for a millennium. We are supposed to feel sorry for Israel because they suffered through the Holocaust yet a) A vast majority of Israeli citizens were born after 1945 and b) They are radicalizing and growing in extremism.    

Okay, what evidence do you have of them trying to systematically oppress and steal from Palestine?

[Thrash]

What has lead you to believe this?

 

Reality?

 

Look at any decisions made for this country that involve money or government, and there's Israeli influence behind it.

[Manoka]

What has lead you to believe this?

 

Reality?

 

Look at any decisions made for this country that involve money or government, and there's Israeli influence behind it.

That isn't really evidence. I don't know, I expect say, sources, information, money trails, clear level of involvement, logic and reason behind it, at the least. 

 

This is just, Israel controls the world media and has infiltrated most country's and control them too. Just sounds like crazy rambling. If I had said the same about any other country without evidence, let's say France or Russia, would you believe it?

Edited by Manoka, 28 October 2014 - 09:31 PM.

[Thrash]

Dude, it's way too rampant to go and find all the instances of it.

 

So let me narrow it down for you. Look at decisions and who controls what and you'll find a berg or a stein or a cohen, etc, etc, etc involved in all of them.

 

Also, and for justas "A" point

 

 a) A vast majority of Israeli citizens were born after 1945

 

You can't fucking use that forever. You can't fucking say that the Arabs want to kill you because of Germany. It's fucking done, it's over. It was a bad thing, so was slavery. BOTH ARE DONE.

 

I bet the blacks are pretty pissed off that they didn't reap the rewards that the Jews did for oppression against them.

[Manoka]

Dude, it's way too rampant to go and find all the instances of it.

 

So let me narrow it down for you. Look at decisions and who controls what and you'll find a berg or a stein or a cohen, etc, etc, etc involved in all of them.

 

Also, and for justas "A" point

 

 a) A vast majority of Israeli citizens were born after 1945

 

You can't fucking use that forever. You can't fucking say that the Arabs want to kill you because of Germany. It's fucking done, it's over. It was a bad thing, so was slavery. BOTH ARE DONE.

 

I bet the blacks are pretty pissed off that they didn't reap the rewards that the Jews did for oppression against them.

What about all the people who still want to kill all the Jews today? O.o

 

I imagine you should be able to cite a handful of evidences of it, at least, if it's so prevalent?

[Justavictim82]

Thrash you need to reread that. I was agreeing with you

[Thrash]

Thrash you need to reread that. I was agreeing with you

 

I know that. That was me agreeing with you and shitting on Manoka.

 

This topic is going to make another Invicta rogue. Manoka, keep buying up to get out of rebel's range.

[KiWi]

Even if I didn't hate them; what gives anyone the inkling of an idea that I would support them?

I don't want my nations efforts, wealth, blood, and morality given to people that do actions on our behalf that I did not consent to.

[Manoka]

Thrash you need to reread that. I was agreeing with you

 

I know that. That was me agreeing with you and shitting on Manoka.

 

This topic is going to make another Invicta rogue. Manoka, keep buying up to get out of rebel's range.

If we can't talk about our political opinions without someone throwing a temper tantrum, and you can't provide evidence to support your claims, then it's not me who has the problem. 

Edited by Manoka, 28 October 2014 - 09:57 PM.

[Manoka]

Even if I didn't hate them; what gives anyone the inkling of an idea that I would support them?

I don't want my nations efforts, wealth, blood, and morality given to people that do actions on our behalf that I did not consent to.

Why do you hate them?

 

Foreign aid can be beneficial to the U.S., by building allies and supporting out interests in the region. Bailing most of the Europe out during WWII helped solidify our alliance with them. Back in the early 1900's, the U.S. just saw them as colonialist empires, which they were, and us as a rebellious colony. 

 

With our intervention, it helped transform large portions of Europe into what they are today, which is much better, for us and for them, and strengthened our ties with them. We shouldn't see things from the perspective of how it only benefits ourselves, but, ultimately these problems have a tendency to balloon out of control and eventually involve us if we don't put a lid on them. 

 

We're a part of the world as well, and what happens in it effects us. 

Edited by Manoka, 28 October 2014 - 09:59 PM.

[Jumbo]

Even if I didn't hate them; what gives anyone the inkling of an idea that I would support them?

I don't want my nations efforts, wealth, blood, and morality given to people that do actions on our behalf that I did not consent to.

Why do you hate them?

 

Foreign aid can be beneficial to the U.S., by building allies and supporting out interests in the region. Bailing most of the Europe out during WWII helped solidify our alliance with them. Back in the early 1900's, the U.S. just saw them as colonialist empires, which they were, and us as a rebellious colony. 

 

With our intervention, it helped transform large portions of Europe into what they are today, which is much better, for us and for them, and strengthened our ties with them. We shouldn't see things from the perspective of how it only benefits ourselves, but, ultimately these problems have a tendency to balloon out of control and eventually involve us if we don't put a lid on them. 

 

We're a part of the world as well, and what happens in it effects us. 

I try to not to hate.Manoka most All of History people was not fair to the Jews.Lot of time they treat the JEWS unfairly.They got blame for a lots of stuff throughout History.They even got blame for Bubonic plague because they practices cleanness.

 

http://en.wikipedia....sh_persecutions

 

This is one of many so call persecutions.

Edited by Jumbo, 28 October 2014 - 11:20 PM.

[Daniel P]

 

EDIT: It seems their is a tread about Jews/Israel every few mouths and I know the outcome(Because it mostly the same).

Edited by Daniel P, 28 October 2014 - 11:25 PM.

[Redezra]

Why do I hate Israel?

 

Hmm... well... I am a misanthrope, perhaps that has to do with it?

[Alyster]

ok, so I guess I'll begin..

 

They are approx. 1% of the USA population yet control just about everything and have the majority of the $ also. You tell me how when none of them lived here say before WWII, and hardly any live here now how they are able to have so much influence over everything single thing in the Government/Media/Banks. This doesn't make any sense.

 

I'll let you reply to that one first.

 

Israel is a country in middle East. You live in a country called United States of America, in North America. Israel is not a memberstate in the US. Thus I'm really having hard time seeing where you get that Israel makes up for 1% of USA?

 

 

Also why do I hate Israel? I'm an equal oportunity hater. I'll find a reason when needed. 

Edited by Alyster, 29 October 2014 - 07:00 AM.

[King Biscuit]

I don't hate Jews or Israel.
Just Zionism/ists.