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Posted 16 September 2014 - 12:53 AM

A lot of it, sadly, is more so that Putin is on a power trip and is too proud/arrogant to admit mistakes, problems, to pull out, and he's told so many lies, spun so much that all he can do is dig deeper as if he openly admits it, he's arrested journalists, attacked people and so on for telling the truth that he was trying to conceal, and covering up his own soldier's death's who he's using in a secret, unjustified war and so on, so if he says "sorry" he's just going to look terrible, and has to go deeper.


That. Plus, you know, the fact that he is winning. He sees a power vacuum and lack of resolve amongst of powers, and he steps in and does what he wants. I mean, sanctions? Ukrainian army? What and who is actually stopping him? He will continue to push until either someone big pushes back with actual force, he gets everything he wants, or he gets bored. He doesn't need to say he's sorry, because there is no one willing to punish him for his actions.

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 01:11 PM

A lot of it, sadly, is more so that Putin is on a power trip and is too proud/arrogant to admit mistakes, problems, to pull out, and he's told so many lies, spun so much that all he can do is dig deeper as if he openly admits it, he's arrested journalists, attacked people and so on for telling the truth that he was trying to conceal, and covering up his own soldier's death's who he's using in a secret, unjustified war and so on, so if he says "sorry" he's just going to look terrible, and has to go deeper.


That. Plus, you know, the fact that he is winning. He sees a power vacuum and lack of resolve amongst of powers, and he steps in and does what he wants. I mean, sanctions? Ukrainian army? What and who is actually stopping him? He will continue to push until either someone big pushes back with actual force, he gets everything he wants, or he gets bored. He doesn't need to say he's sorry, because there is no one willing to punish him for his actions.

 

That's correct. However as soon as you push back on Russia with actual force they will go nuclear. 

 

The world doesn't (luckily) have generals like Curtis LeMay anymore who promote nuclear preemtive strikes in cases like Cold war era crisis. 

 

That's why you can't really push back on Putin's arrogance. 

 

 

 

Putin's biography says he's facinated by history books about great Russian leaders. Undoutably he want to become one of the great ones, just like any US president wants to do the same while their in office. Just that in Russia, you have a lot more to live up to. 



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Posted 17 September 2014 - 07:08 PM

All leaders want to be among the greatest in history. Most think they are. Very few are right.



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Posted 21 September 2014 - 05:24 AM

I think Putin is a wannabe Stalin in some aspects. :P Then again, as former head of the KGB, that shouldn't be surprising. :v

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Posted 29 September 2014 - 03:27 PM

We're just about wrapped up with our investigation into the Buk that downed flight 17. Read all about it here:

https://bellingcat.c...nvoy-in-russia/




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