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Sind wir Ukrainisch?

Started By Alyster , Mar 03 2014 08:36 AM

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Poll: Sind wir Ukrainisch? (10 member(s) have cast votes)

Who do you support in Ukraine's political mess?

  1. Democratically elected president - Yanukovych (3 votes [30.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.00%

  2. People's Revolutionary government - Yatsenyuk (3 votes [30.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.00%

  3. Our Glorious Mother Russia - Putin (2 votes [20.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.00%

  4. Other (Specify) (2 votes [20.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.00%

  5. Is Ukraine in Middle East? (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 Alyster

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 08:36 AM

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 09:49 AM

Other: America sticks it's nose where it doesn't belong, thus triggering the first MAJOR war of the new millenium.



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Posted 03 March 2014 - 10:58 AM

Other: America sticks it's nose where it doesn't belong, thus triggering the first MAJOR war of the new millenium.

 

To play devil's advocate: according to Budapest's Memorandum of 1994 Ukraine gave up its' nuclear stockpile (3rd largest in the world) inreturn for US and UK (and Russia) quaranteeing Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity. You have military obligations in front of Ukraine :P


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Posted 03 March 2014 - 11:13 AM

Bah, damnit Alyster.

Always gotta dish out the realism.

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 01:16 PM

First, let's clear something up:  The United States is the biggest geopolitical player on the world stage; everything that happens on it is our business to some extent.  The idea that certain events are "too far away" or "don't concern us" was outmoded a hundred years ago, and the world has only gotten smaller since then.  If you don't think that the strategic and political doings of the second-biggest player have a direct impact on our national security, then you are breathtakingly shortsighted.  And let's not forget, our close allies in Europe get a big part of their energy from Russia -- piped through Ukraine.  Wars have been fought for less.  But I don't think that will happen in this case.  Russia will keep the Crimea, that's a foregone conclusion.  The only question now is whether they try to take the eastern provinces too, which have a lot of ethnic Russians.



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Posted 03 March 2014 - 01:38 PM

Other: Let Ukraine stabilize from the revolution and then hold a new election. <- Russia could have at the least waited for this



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Posted 03 March 2014 - 05:01 PM

Stability is not in Russia's interest.



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Posted 03 March 2014 - 06:02 PM

Indeed it isn't. Putin is trying to relive the glory days of the Soviet Empire.



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Posted 25 March 2014 - 07:53 PM

Stability is not in Russia's interest.

 

What? Of course it is! They see instability and invade to stabilize! :D

 

I'm throwing my support behind the legitimate government, who presumably is behind Russia's intervention.


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