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Is Star Wars Episode 1 the worst movie of the six?

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#1 Shokkou

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Posted 06 May 2015 - 03:07 AM

"Don't try to frighten us with your sorcerous ways, Lord Vader." -Admiral Motti, A New Hope
 
A thought occurred to me at work today, which I put as the title of this thread. I'm just going to dive right in. First off, a powerful and sorcerous warrior with magic-like abilities attacks a palace seeking to capture a female royal who happens to be known for her wisdom. She escapes and winds up encountering a boy of great courage and destiny, who over time develops a romantic interest in her and has to travel to an old temple to meet with the master sages to learn of his destiny and begin his training. He has to complete a task before they can leave the area where they met him, and he has to split up with the female royal to meet with the sages while she pleads for help from the leader of the realm. The leader of the realm is unable to help them and they are forced to take matters into their own hands. In addition, all this time the female royal speaks to the young boy under a guise which is not revealed until shortly before their confrontation with the sorcerous warrior...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
It's motherfucking Legend of Zelda. Fucking hell Lucas, you thieving hack. The Gungans are even Zoras I mean holy shit. Maul is Ganondorf, Padme/Amidala is Shiek (or Tetra)/Zelda, and Anakin is Link. Naboo is Hyrule Kingdom, and Theed is the City of Hyrule. That glowing orb in the last scene is the Triforce how much more obvious can it get?



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Posted 06 May 2015 - 06:50 PM

You think that's air, you're breathing?



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Posted 08 May 2015 - 04:29 PM

There has been talk that Disney could retcon the prequels out of existence, as they did with much of the so-called "Expanded Universe" (EU). Wouldn't that be glorious?

 

The prequels are awful.



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Posted 08 May 2015 - 06:09 PM

I can't vote because I have never played Zelda. But I do like the old star wars movies though, I think the 6 all together tell a wonderful and interesting story.

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Posted 10 May 2015 - 06:00 AM

I never played Legend of Zelda.

 

At least Phantom Menace had Liam Neeson. That one fact made it watchable.

 

Then again, I never saw Clones or Sith. The kung-fu Yoda ad put me off the whole series.



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Posted 10 May 2015 - 08:13 AM

Revenge of the Sith is worth watching just for the Anakin Skywalker killing the shit out of people bit near the end. Cause Darth Vader is pretty cool.



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Posted 14 May 2015 - 09:35 AM

"Don't try to frighten us with your sorcerous ways, Lord Vader." -Admiral Motti, A New Hope
 
A thought occurred to me at work today, which I put as the title of this thread. I'm just going to dive right in. First off, a powerful and sorcerous warrior with magic-like abilities attacks a palace seeking to capture a female royal who happens to be known for her wisdom. She escapes and winds up encountering a boy of great courage and destiny, who over time develops a romantic interest in her and has to travel to an old temple to meet with the master sages to learn of his destiny and begin his training. He has to complete a task before they can leave the area where they met him, and he has to split up with the female royal to meet with the sages while she pleads for help from the leader of the realm. The leader of the realm is unable to help them and they are forced to take matters into their own hands. In addition, all this time the female royal speaks to the young boy under a guise which is not revealed until shortly before their confrontation with the sorcerous warrior...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
It's motherfucking Legend of Zelda. Fucking hell Lucas, you thieving hack. The Gungans are even Zoras I mean holy shit. Maul is Ganondorf, Padme/Amidala is Shiek (or Tetra)/Zelda, and Anakin is Link. Naboo is Hyrule Kingdom, and Theed is the City of Hyrule. That glowing orb in the last scene is the Triforce how much more obvious can it get?

 

It's also the plot to the book Eragon, which is such a blatant ripoff of Star Wars I can't believe no one called them on it.



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Posted 14 May 2015 - 05:56 PM

I haven't run many RPGs the last few years, but over time I have run rather a lot of them.

 

In the early 90s I was running a game using a system called Dark Conspiracy, which essentially was a system designed to simulate tacky B-Movies from the fifties and sixties. It was actually a lot of fun :)

 

However.

 

One day, near the end of the campaign (it ran for about two and a half years, and is one of the few campaigns I ever ran to its completion), one of my players pointed something out to me.

 

The objects were different, and of course the characters were different (most of them having been made by my players), but the essential core plot of the whole campaign was The Lord of the Rings.

 

Nobody else noticed this, and the fact didn't bother him, so I didn't mind. However he was right. And I thought about it, and realized that several of my other campaigns had borrowed Tolkien's core storyline.

 

I have since attempted to vary my campaigns a bit more, mostly that's for my own pleasure. I suspect I could have run several more campaigns borrowing that plot without having players mind - or even notice in most cases.

 

Thing is, there's a limited number of plots available, and honestly if you come up with variations on the old plots and interesting characters nobody even cares.

 

You can do a lot more with character than you can with plot, especially in fantasy.



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Posted 14 May 2015 - 11:31 PM

I'm sorry. You don't get to just casually drop "I ran an RPG campaign that was basically a tacky B-movie version of LotR" and leave it at that. You're going to spill some fucking deets. It's storytime.

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Posted 15 May 2015 - 08:03 AM

A lot of RPG campaigns revolve around LoTR-like plots. Magic items, evil sorcerers, etc., it's all good. :grin:



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Posted 15 May 2015 - 07:10 PM

I ran it every Saturday, more often during Christmas, and sometimes twice a week during summer break for TWO AND A HALF YEARS. I had somewhere in the region of fifty to a hundred players at one point or another, and maybe about a dozen people who were regular players who kept coming. My games were never for everyone, a lot of people quit my DC campaign in particular, but I never cared because I always had players.

 

What I'm trying to say is all I can remember from that crazy time is anecdotes. I mean, I can kinda remember the overall giant plot, which revolved around a wild chase across space and time starting in the bizarro Dark Conspiracy version of Phoenix - and ending back in Phoenix, except it was mostly burnt to the ground by then, but it mostly blurs into a pile of details: the time that Kat (an insane redhead I sorta dated) tossed a pile of grenades through a time tunnel to the future instead of trying to figure out what was actually going on, the time that Gil (the guy with the Record for Longest Time Without Dying, his first character survived an incredible 18 months) first died, the time that Sean looked up and said "The light at the end of the tunnel is a body part dispenser machine!" - and it was, the time that the party almost created Nazi mutant zombies in a house full of a green slime, the time that the party forgot why they were in New York City and so got distracted searching the sewers, which had been filled with monsters as an obstacle, losing something like a dozen characters in the process when all they were supposed to be doing was finding a professor, the one time that Evan played over Christmas, when he played a psycho killer cyborg that cleaned out a warehouse full of trolls (Dark Conspiracy trolls, significantly worse than the D&D ones) with his hands in a marathon 16-hour game session... you get the picture. I'm sure I have forgotten tons of great stories from that campaign as well.

 

All my players were flaky back then. Some just didn't like my game, and never came back; those were largely D&D types who hated the idea of monsters coming out of toilets and/or didn't like my kill rate. Sean set the record for most deaths at six, not counting the finale weekend when an absolutely colossal number of PCs died. Sean was also the first player to die and make up a new character.

 

Oh yeah, that reminds me of one of my favourite idiot stories. Dan Henderson managed to get lucky during character creation and obtain the Storm Gun. This semi-legendary sniper rifle fired an absolutely ludicrous bullet which could actually damage a tank, and obviously seriously kill most organic creatures. Anyway, during the first session, Dan was there with his storm gun and there were flying saucers.

 

The flying saucers were armed with something called a Death Ray. I tried to point this fact out to Dan, the other players listened but Dan would not be intimidated. He fired his Storm Gun, and actually managed to do some good damage to a flying saucer, but since it was more like a tank than a person he didn't kill it. Then the flying saucer shot back, hit Dan, and I rolled the hit location and it came up 1 - which is the head.

 

The death ray did ninety dice of damage. That is to say, more dice than Dan's character had hit points in his head. I didn't roll them.

 

However, the storm gun normally came with a pair of ultraviolet goggles to allow its operator to see the UV-range laser sight mounted on it. The party was able to salvage the gun, but for the rest of the campaign (until near the end, when such things became sorta irrelevant because the apocalypse was at hand) on the group equipment list there was Storm Gun - No UV goggles. :)



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Posted 15 May 2015 - 07:17 PM

Anyway, back to the flaky players. Some were stoners, Robin was a terrific example; he was a great gamer when he turned up, but you never knew if he'd be there. He was actually the first guy to introduce me to Vampire: the Masquerade; he ran a campaign, sorta, in a cafe downtown for a while. Some had family issues, Baha for example got sent across the continent one summer to live with his mother. Some were graduate students or had other needs to succeed in school type things, so they wouldn't be around when their curricula kicked up. Some were just flaky people, who would play until they met a girl/guy and then vanish - at least until they broke up, lol. Some were from way out of town, like Evan; he was in town for Christmas one year, and played, it was awesome, but I didn't expect him to drive like six hours every weekend just to game. Others were just insane, and they played for their own reasons I was rarely able to fathom and stopped for other similar reasons.



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Posted 16 May 2015 - 05:51 PM

You fucking nerd.



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